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In his book Pour en finir avec le machin. Les désarrois d’un consultant en management, published in April 2024 by EMS, the sociologist Norbert ALTER presents us with an exhilarating satire of management. Management “preaches rationality, but practises unreason” (p.7), says the author, who is convinced that it is a sham, a “thing” that organizations could do without. Norbert ALTER introduces us to the character of Frédéric, a young chemistry graduate who finds himself navigating a career in a prestigious management consulting firm. In the land of management (or “thing”), Frédéric will strive to face up to the situation and awaken minds dulled by the nonesense. . . The editorial team of RIMHE is pleased to present an exclusive interview with the author about this uncompromising book on management. * The questions asked by the editorial board of RIMHE are in italics.