Trace du maternel dans le religieux (notice n° 856687)
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| Personal name | Merot, Patrick |
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| Title | Trace du maternel dans le religieux |
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| Date of publication, distribution, etc. | 2012.<br/> |
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| General note | 38 |
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| Summary, etc. | RésuméL’ Esquisse, avec les développements sur l’action spécifique, donne des clés pour comprendre ce qui s’inscrit chez l’enfant comme maternel, dans un moment où la question économique est au premier plan parce que l’enfant doit traiter des quantités massives.– Or il apparaît que cette dimension est centrale dans ce qu’on peut désigner comme religieux que l’on différenciera de la religion. La lecture de L’avenir d’une illusion et de Malaise dans la culture, permet de mettre en évidence combien, dans certains passages saisissants, Freud a pu s’approcher de très près de cette dimension du maternel, l’énoncer même, pour s’en détourner aussitôt, dans un contrepoint suspendu. Diverses raisons rendent compte de cela et d’abord le fait que Freud construit une théorie des religions – et singulièrement des religions monothéistes –, et non du religieux.– Dans la clinique et dans les écrits de certains mystiques – en prenant ici le témoignage de Mme Guyon –, on peut retrouver cette trace du maternel dans le religieux.– L’illusion religieuse, dont Freud nous invite à nous défaire, n’est pas du seul côté des pères et il faut pouvoir prendre en compte ce qui, dans l’illusion religieuse, prend source du côté maternel. C’est là une réflexion nécessaire, qui résonne avec des questions très contemporaines, pour pouvoir penser la place de l’illusion dans une existence véritablement humaine. |
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| Summary, etc. | Trace of the maternal in the religiousWith its accounts of the specific action, the Project provides some keys to understanding what is embedded in the child as maternal while the economic question is in the foreground because the child has to deal with massive quantities. Now this dimension seems to be central in what may be termed the religious, which will be differentiated from religion. Reading The Future of an Illusion and Civilization and its Discontents can demonstrate how, in some striking passages, Freud could approach this dimension of the maternal very closely, even articulate it, then immediately turn away from it, in a suspended counterpoint. There are various reasons to explain this, first the fact that Freud constructs a theory of religions – in particular monotheistic religions – rather than the religious. In clinical practice and in the writings of some mystics – such as Mme Guyon’s testimony – this trace of the maternal can be found in the religious. The religious illusion that Freud invites us to relinquish does not belong only to fathers and we must be able to take into account elements of the religious illusion that derive from the maternal side. This reflection, which echoes some highly contemporary questions, is necessary for considering the role of illusion in a truly human existence. |
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| Summary, etc. | Resumen« Proyecto de psicología para neurólogos », con la profundización de la acción específica, abre puertas para poder comprender lo que se inscribe en el niño como materno, en un momento en que el que la cuestión económica está en un primer plano ya que el niño debe tratar cantidades masivas.Ahora bien, se vislumbra que dicha dimensión es central en lo que podemos designar como religioso que diferenciaremos de la religión. La lectura de El porvenir de una ilusión y de Malestar en la cultura, permite evidenciar cómo, en ciertos pasajes notables, Freud pudo palpar la dimensión de lo materno, incluso enunciarla, para rápidamente alejarse, desde un contrapunto suspendido. Diversos motivos lo explican y ante todo el hecho de que Freud construye una teoría de las religiones – peculiarmente de las religiones monoteístas –, y no de lo religioso.En la clínica y en los escritos de algunos místicos – tomamos aquí el testimonio de la señora Guyon –, se puede encontrar cierta huella de lo materno en lo religioso.La ilusión religiosa, de la que Freud nos invita a deshacernos, no está únicamente del lado de los padres y es menester tener en cuenta aquello que en la ilusión religiosa, mama de lo materno. Es pues una reflexión necesaria, que resuena con temas muy contemporáneos, a fin de poder pensar el lugar de la ilusión en una existencia verdaderamente humana. |
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| Summary, etc. | Zusammenfassung« Der Abriss » mit seinen Ausführungen über die spezische Aktion liefert den Schlüssel zum Verständnis dessen, was sich beim Kind als mütterlich in dem Augenblick einprägt, wo die Triebökonomie im Vordergrund steht, weil das Kind mit massiven Quantitäten umgehen und fertigwerden muss. Es zeigt sich nun, dass diese Dimension zentral ist für das, was man als religiös bezeichnen kann, und was hier von der Religion unterschieden werden wird. Die Lekture von Zukunft einer Illusion und Unbehagen in der Kultur erlaubt es, deutlich zu machen, wie sehr Freud in einigen ergreifenden Passagen sich dieser Dimension der Mütterlichkeit hat annähern, sie sogar hat ansprechen können, um sich sofort wieder davon zu entfernen. Aus verschiedenen Gründen wird dies klar, und vor allem durch die Tatsache, dass Freud eine Theorie der Religionen aufgestellt hat, – und insbesondere der monotheistischen Religionen – und nicht des Religiösen. In der Klinik und in den Schriften einiger Mystiker (hierzu werden die Aussagen von Madame Guyon herangezogen) kann man diese Spur der Mütterlichkeit im Religiösen wiederfinden. Die religiöse Illusion, von der Freud uns nahelegt uns freizumachen, besteht nicht nur auf der Seite der Väter, es muss auch dem, was in der religiösen Illusion in der Mütterlichkeit seinen Ursprung hat, Rechnung getragen werden. Es handelt sich hier um eine notwendige Überlegung, die ihren Widerhall in sehr gegenwärtigen Fragestellungen findet, und bei der es darum geht, den Platz der Illusion in einer wahrhaft menschlichen Existenz bestimmen zu können. |
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| Summary, etc. | Riassunto Il Progetto..., con gli sviluppi sull’ azione specifica, fornisce delle chiavi per capire cio’ che si iscrive nel bambino come materno, in un momento in cui la questione economica è in primo piano perchè il bambino deve trattare delle quantità massicce.– Sembra che questa dimensione sia centrale in cio’ che si puo’ designare come religioso, diverso dalla religione. La lettura di L’avvenire di un’illusione e di Disagio nella cultura, permette di mettere in evidenza, in certi passaggi sorprendenti, quanto Freud abbia potuto avvicinarsi molto a questa dimensione del materno, enunciandola addirittura, per poi distogliersene in un contrappunto sospeso. Diverse ragioni rendono conto di cio’ e innanzitutto il fatto che Freud costruisce una teoria delle religioni – e singolarmente delle religioni monoteiste – e non del religioso.– Nella clinica e negli scritti di certi mistici – prendendo qui la testimonianza di madame Guyon –, si puo’ ritrovare questa traccia del materno nel religioso.– L’illlusione religiosa, di cui Freud ci invita a disfarci, non è solo dalla parte dei padri e bisogna poter tener conto cio’ che nell’illusione religiosa scaturisce dalla parte del materno. Vi è qui una riflessione necessaria che entra in risonanaza con questioni molto contemporanee, per poter pensare il posto dell’illusione in un’esistenza veramente umana. |
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| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | action spécifique |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | progrès dans la spiritualité |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | mystique |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | maternel |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | principe d’inertie |
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| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | religieux |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | satisfaction |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | chose |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | transcendance |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | religion |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | mystical |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | transcendence |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | mother goddesses |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | oceanic feeling |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | satisfaction |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | maternal |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | progress in spirituality |
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| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | passivity |
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| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | thing |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | religious |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | specific action |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | inertia principle |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | religion |
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| Note | Revue française de psychanalyse | 75 | 5 | 2012-02-02 | p. 1353-1433 | 0035-2942 |
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