Les deux temps de l’Œdipe (notice n° 859328)
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| Personal name | Chauvin, Jean-Marc |
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| Title | Les deux temps de l’Œdipe |
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| Date of publication, distribution, etc. | 2016.<br/> |
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| General note | 29 |
| 520 ## - SUMMARY, ETC. | |
| Summary, etc. | Si la théorie freudienne du monisme phallique paupérise les notions de bisexualité psychique et de sexualité féminine, elle occulte les nombreuses descriptions nuancées du sexe féminin parcourant certains écrits freudiens. Ce monisme phallique pour le garçon et phallique-clitoridien pour la fille serait plus fécond. Il serait source d’identifications génitales étayantes, avant d’aborder l’Œdipe. Il y aurait deux temps. Un premier, dit « stade phallique identitaire », quiescent, soulignant une relation objectale dyadique homosexuelle à son père et dyadique hétérosexuelle à sa mère pour le garçon. Pour la fille, dyadique homosexuelle et hétérosexuelle à sa mère et dyadique hétérosexuelle à son père. Un deuxième temps, un après-coup, dipha-sique, nommé « stade phallique-vaginal », sera co-construit quand l’Œdipe prendra son plein sens tiercéisant. |
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| Summary, etc. | If the Freudian theory of phallic monism pauperises the notions of psychic bisexuali-ty and female sexuality, it also obscures many nuanced descriptions of the female sex that can be found in certain Freudian texts. It would be more fruitful to think in terms of a phallic monism for the boy and phallic-clitoridian monism for the girl. It would be a source of supportive genital identifications before approaching the Oedipal conflict. Two stages may be posited. The first, a quiescent “phallic stage of identity” emphasizing a homosexual dyadic object-relationship with the father and a heterosexual dyadic object-relationship with the mother in the case of the boy; and, a homosexual and heterosexual dyadic relationship with the mother and a heterosexual dyadic relationship with the father in the case of a girl. A second, diphasic stage, an “après-coup”, called the “vaginal-phallic stage”, will be co-constructed when the Oedipal complex ac-quires its full meaning of producing thirdness. |
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| Summary, etc. | Si la teoría freudiana del monismo fálico pauperiza las nociones de bisexualidad psíquica y sexualidad femenina, ella oculta numerosas descripciones matizadas del sexo feme-nino que recorren algunos escritos freudianos. El monismo fálico para el chico y fálico-cliteroidal para la chica sería más fecundo. Sería pues fuente de identificaciones genitales apun-taladoras, antes de abordar el Edipo. Habría dos tiempos. El primero, llamado “fase fálica identi-taria”, quiescente que subraya una relación díadica homosexual con el padre y díadica hetero-sexual con la madre para el chico. Para la hija, díadica homosexual y heterosexual con la madre y díadica heterosexual con el padre. El segundo tiempo, una posterioridad, difásica, de-nominada “fase fálica-vaginal”, será co-construida cuando Edipo se ampare de su sentido ter-cerizante. |
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| Summary, etc. | Die Freudsche Theorie des phallischen Monismus lässt die Begriffe der Bisexualität und der weiblichen Sexualität verarmen; sie kaschiert zahlreiche, in einigen Schrif-ten Freuds auffindbare nuancierte Beschreibungen des weiblichen Geschlechts. Dieser für den Jungen phallische und für das Mädchen phallisch-klitorale Monismus sei, dem Autor nach, ergiebiger. Er sei der Ursprung stützender genitaler Identifikationen vor der Aufnahme des Ö-dipus. Es gebe zwei Zeiten. Eine erste sogenannte „phallische Identitätsphase“, bei der für den Jungen eine dyadische homosexuelle Objektbeziehung zum Vater und eine dyadische hetero-sexuelle zur Mutter im Vordergrund stünden. Für das Mädchen, eine dyadische homosexuelle und heterosexuelle zur Mutter und eine dyadische heterosexuelle zum Vater. Eine zweite nachträgliche Zeit, „phallisch-vaginale Phase“ genannt, werde mit konstruiert, sobald der Ö-dipus im vollen Sinne tertiär werde. |
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| Summary, etc. | Se la teoria freudiana del monismo fallico pauperizza le nozioni di bisessualità psichica e di sessualità femminile, essa occulta le numerose descrizioni sfumate del sesso femminile che percorre certi scritti freudiani. Questo monismo fallico per il maschio e fallico clitorideo per la femmina sarebbe più fecondo. Sarebbe fonte di identificazioni genitali di sostegno, prima di affrontare l’Edipo. Ci sarebbero due tempi. Un primo tempo detto “stadio fallico identitario”, quiescente, che sottolinea una relazione oggettuale diadica omosessuale al padre e diadica eterosessuale alla madre per il maschio. Per la femmina, diadica omosessuale e eterosessuale alla madre e diadica eterosessuale al padre. Un secondo tempo, un après-coup, difasico, nominato “stadio fallico-vaginale”, sarà co-costruito quando l’Edipo prenderà il suo pieno senso terzeizzante. |
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| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Œdipe |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Stade phallique |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Sexualité féminine |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Envie du pénis |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Stade phallique identitaire |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Bisexualité psychique |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Stade phallique-vaginal |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Phallic stage |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Female sexuality |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Penis envy |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Phallic stage of identity |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Vaginal-phallic stage |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Psychic bisexuality |
| 690 ## - LOCAL SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--TOPICAL TERM (OCLC, RLIN) | |
| Topical term or geographic name as entry element | Oedipal complex |
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| Note | Revue française de psychanalyse | 80 | 2 | 2016-05-11 | p. 533-546 | 0035-2942 |
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